Tango 7/8 & Tango 9 mixed environment

# 5 years ago
zreszela	Dear Tango experts! At Alba we plan to upgrade our beamlines to Tango 9. Currently, in two of them, we use Tango 8 and in the rest Tango 7 (at the end of the message you can find the exact stack). Our plan is to do it gradually, following this order: (below Tango7/8 means that in the case of some beamlines this will be Tango 7 and in the case of other beamlines Tango 8, but never a mix of both) 1. Migrate the Tango DB to Tango 9 and run it with Tango 9 maintaining all servers and clients with Tango 7/8. 2. Run Sardana server and Sardana clients (Taurus GUIs) with Tango 9 maintaining the rest of the servers and clients with Tango 7/8 3. Gradually migrate the rest of the control system (Vacuum, Alarms, DAQ, Detectors… ) servers and clients to Tango 9. The above plan assumes running a mix of Tango versions. To our opinion the critical points are: In point 1 we run Tango 7/8 servers and clients against the Tango 9 database In point 2 we have: Tango 9 Sardana server which creates DeviceProxies to Tango 7/8 devices and may read/write/subscribe attributes. The same server will create proxies to Tango 9 devices as well. Tango 9 Sardana clients (Taurus GUIs) which creates DeviceProxies to Tango 7/8 devices and may read/write/subscribe attributes. The same clients will create proxies to Tango 9 devices as well. In principle this should work cause Tango 9 is backwards compatible but, just in case, we would like to ask if you have some advices, or maybe you run such a hybrid systems? What is your experience about it? If yes please report the exact stack. Our stack is: Tango 7: * libtango 7.2.6 (with the official patches applied) * liblog4tango.so 4.0.3 * libCOS4 1.5 * libCOSDynamic4 1.5 * libomniCodeSets4 1.5 * libomniConnectionMgmt4 1.5 * libomniDynamic4 1.5 * libomniORB4 1.5 * libomniThread 3.4 * libCOSNotify4.so 0 * libAttNotification4.so 0 * notifd 2.1 * PyTango 7.2.3 * Jive 4.19 * Astor 5.4.1 Tango 8: * libtango 8.1.2 (with the official patches applied) * liblog4tango.so 5.0.0 * libCOS4 1.6 * libCOSDynamic4 1.6 * libomniCodeSets4 1.6 * libomniConnectionMgmt4 1.6 * libomniDynamic4 1.6 * libomniORB4 1.6 * libomniThread 3.4 * libzmq 3.0.0 * PyTango 8.1.4 * Jive 4.31 * Astor 6.4.6 Tango 9: * libtango 9.2.5 (with patches for tangoCpp #354, #415, #444) * liblog4tango.so 5.0.1 * libCOS4 1.6 * libCOSDynamic4 1.6 * libomniCodeSets4 1.6 * libomniConnectionMgmt4 1.6 * libomniDynamic4 1.6 * libomniORB4 1.6 * libomnisslTP4.so 1.6 * libomniThread 3.4 * libzmq 5.1.1 * PyTango 9.2.0 * Jive 7.10 * Astor 7.0.9 Thanks in advance for sharing your opinion!

# 5 years ago

Dear Tango experts!

At Alba we plan to upgrade our beamlines to Tango 9. Currently, in two of them, we use Tango 8 and in the rest Tango 7 (at the end of the message you can find the exact stack).

Our plan is to do it gradually, following this order:

(below Tango7/8 means that in the case of some beamlines this will be Tango 7 and in the case of other beamlines Tango 8, but never a mix of both)

1. Migrate the Tango DB to Tango 9 and run it with Tango 9 maintaining all servers and clients with Tango 7/8.
2. Run Sardana server and Sardana clients (Taurus GUIs) with Tango 9 maintaining the rest of the servers and clients with Tango 7/8
3. Gradually migrate the rest of the control system (Vacuum, Alarms, DAQ, Detectors… ) servers and clients to Tango 9.

The above plan assumes running a mix of Tango versions. To our opinion the critical points are:

In point 1 we run Tango 7/8 servers and clients against the Tango 9 database
In point 2 we have:

Tango 9 Sardana server which creates DeviceProxies to Tango 7/8 devices and may read/write/subscribe attributes. The same server will create proxies to Tango 9 devices as well.
Tango 9 Sardana clients (Taurus GUIs) which creates DeviceProxies to Tango 7/8 devices and may read/write/subscribe attributes. The same clients will create proxies to Tango 9 devices as well.

In principle this should work cause Tango 9 is backwards compatible but, just in case, we would like to ask if you have some advices, or maybe you run such a hybrid systems? What is your experience about it? If yes please report the exact stack. Our stack is:

Tango 7:
* libtango 7.2.6 (with the official patches applied)
* liblog4tango.so 4.0.3
* libCOS4 1.5
* libCOSDynamic4 1.5
* libomniCodeSets4 1.5
* libomniConnectionMgmt4 1.5
* libomniDynamic4 1.5
* libomniORB4 1.5
* libomniThread 3.4
* libCOSNotify4.so 0
* libAttNotification4.so 0
* notifd 2.1
* PyTango 7.2.3
* Jive 4.19
* Astor 5.4.1

Tango 8:
* libtango 8.1.2 (with the official patches applied)
* liblog4tango.so 5.0.0
* libCOS4 1.6
* libCOSDynamic4 1.6
* libomniCodeSets4 1.6
* libomniConnectionMgmt4 1.6
* libomniDynamic4 1.6
* libomniORB4 1.6
* libomniThread 3.4
* libzmq 3.0.0
* PyTango 8.1.4
* Jive 4.31
* Astor 6.4.6

Tango 9:
* libtango 9.2.5 (with patches for tangoCpp #354, #415, #444)
* liblog4tango.so 5.0.1
* libCOS4 1.6
* libCOSDynamic4 1.6
* libomniCodeSets4 1.6
* libomniConnectionMgmt4 1.6
* libomniDynamic4 1.6
* libomniORB4 1.6
* libomnisslTP4.so 1.6
* libomniThread 3.4
* libzmq 5.1.1
* PyTango 9.2.0
* Jive 7.10
* Astor 7.0.9

Thanks in advance for sharing your opinion!

# 5 years ago
FPO	Hello, At Thales, we are currently upgrading our devices from Tango 8 to Tango 9. From our experience, we did not met some compatibility problems mixing Tango 8 and Tango 9 (meaning we execute some Tango 9 devices with Tango 8 database and the contrary). We also did not noticed problem on Jive and Astor with the two versions. The difficulties we often met is that Tango 9 uses 64 bits executables while Tango 8 uses 32 bits one. The upgrading can sometimes be touchy (for the link / external libraries for instance). Hope it helps. regards, Florian Pourchayre Thales Group

# 5 years ago

FPO

Hello,

At Thales, we are currently upgrading our devices from Tango 8 to Tango 9. From our experience, we did not met some compatibility problems mixing Tango 8 and Tango 9 (meaning we execute some Tango 9 devices with Tango 8 database and the contrary). We also did not noticed problem on Jive and Astor with the two versions.

The difficulties we often met is that Tango 9 uses 64 bits executables while Tango 8 uses 32 bits one. The upgrading can sometimes be touchy (for the link / external libraries for instance).

Hope it helps.

regards,

Florian Pourchayre
Thales Group

# 5 years ago
zreszela	Thanks Florian for your answer! We will proceed with the ugprade and write back should any of the problem occur.